Transcripción de la entrevista de Radio Dialogos con el economista y secretario general del Frente Unido Popular de Grecia (EPAM) Dimitris Kazakis. Esta entrevista se emitió en nuestras transmisiones para la semana del 14-20 de abril de 2016. Encuentra el podcast de esta entrevista aquí (en inglés).
Nota de la traductora, Déborah Berman Santana: Esta es la transcripción (traducida al español) de la entrevista realizada en abril 2016 por la emisora “Diálogos Media Radio” (http://dialogosmedia.org/) con el economista, analista y secretario general de La Frente Unida Popular de Grecia (EPAM), Dimitris Kazakis. EPAM fue fundada durante el verando de 2011 en los campamentos de los indignados, en resistencia contra el primer acuerdo del gobierno con los acreedores de la deuda. Las demandas son: 1. Repudio unilateral de la deuda de acuerdo con el derecho internacional; 2. Cancelación de todos los memorandos y los tratados internacionales firmados desde 2010 con el FMI, la UE y el BCE; 3. Salida de la Unión Europea y la zona euro, y un retorno a la moneda nacional; 4. Nacionalización de los principales bancos a partir del Banco de Grecia, con el fin de controlar la economía, para redefinir la política de crédito y para controlar el tráfico de la capital; 5. Juicio y castigo de todos los responsables de la quiebra y la pérdida de la soberanía del país; 6. Nueva Constitución basada en la defensa de la plena soberanía nacional del pueblo de Grecia.
Traducido por Déborah B. Santana
MN: Para acompañarnos hoy en Dialogos Radio es el economista, analista, y secretario general del Frente Unido Popular de Grecia (EPAM) Dimitris Kazakis, que nos hablará hoy sobre los últimos acontecimientos económicos y políticos en Grecia y sobre la candente cuestión de la crisis de los refugiados y migrantes en Grecia y Europa. Dimitri, gracias por estar con nosotros una vez más.
DK: Gracias por recibirme.
MN: Antes de discutir la evolución económica en Grecia, vamos a hablar primero sobre la crisis migratoria y de refugiados. Usted ha hablado mucho sobre este tema y quería empezar por preguntar por el reciente acuerdo entre la Unión Europea y Turquía, que fue co-firmado por el gobierno griego. ¿Es este acuerdo legal y es ejecutable, y qué dice el derecho internacional sobre el tema?
This week, Dialogos Radio and the Dialogos Interview Series will feature an extremely timely and detailed interview with the economist, analyst, and General Secretary of Greece’s United Popular Front (EPAM) Dimitris Kazakis. In this week’s interview, Kazakis will share with us his analysis of all the latest economic and political developments in Greece, he will talk about the cases of Cyprus and Ireland and why they have not escaped the economic crisis, he will discuss EPAM’s proposals for a Greek departure from the Eurozone and from the European Union plus a unilateral write-off of Greece’s national debt, and he will also discuss the hot-button issue of the ongoing refugee and migrant crisis.
In addition, we will also air our commentary of the week segment, on the current economic and political developments in Greece and the apathy of much of the Greek population.
All this and more, this week exclusively on Dialogos Radio!
Each year, on the 25th of March, Greeks around the world commemorate the beginning of the Greek revolution against the Ottoman Empire. A commemoration which is closely tied into Greece’s national and cultural identity, and with the freedom and independence of the modern Greek state, after 400 years of occupation by the Ottomans.
But which independence and which sovereignty are we actually talking about here? The result of the Greek revolution of 1821 may well have been the end of 400 years of Turkish occupation and control, but what followed since then and what continues until today is a different sort of occupation, a political and economic occupation and increasingly a cultural one as well. Modern Greece has never been an independent or sovereign state. It has been a colony and protectorate of the Bavarians, who soon after Greece regained so-called “independence” brought in their royal families to rule Greece. Greece was a colony and protectorate of the British, who did what they do best, employing divide and conquer techniques against the Greek people in order to assert control and dominance, as was the case immediately after the end of World War II, when the British turned their backs on the rebels who resisted Nazi occupation and sided with far-right, fascist, criminal elements who had been Nazi collaborators. Greece has been a colony and protectorate of the United States, who brought in so-called “patriotic” elements into power in the 1950s while emptying the country of its educated youth at the time, and who later on brought a full-fledged military dictatorship to Greece, in the name of freedom and democracy of course. And since 1981, Greece has been a bona fide colony of the European Union and later the Eurozone.
It is pretty clear that humanity, and certainly the Greek people, have not yet had enough of so-called saviors. This is the conclusion that I am forced to reach after watching the latest Greek political “hero” Zoe Konstantopoulou being paraded from one major Greek media outlet to another, leading up to the launch of her new political movement.
This week on Dialogos Radio, the Dialogos Interview Series will feature a highly interesting and exclusive interview with Antti Pesonen of the Independence Party of Finland. The Independence Party advocates the departure of Finland from the Eurozone and from the European Union and is against Finland joining NATO, and in this week’s interview, Pesonen will discuss the party, its history and its platform, the dire impacts of Eurozone and European Union membership for Finland, the economic crisis that is now impacting the country and the many similarities which exist with Greece, the network of European political parties and movements which are against the European Union and the euro, and about other current issues facing Greece and Europe.
Also this week, we will feature our commentary of the week segment, where we will discuss Zoe Konstantopoulou and her forthcoming political movement. All this, plus some great Greek music, this week only on Dialogos Radio!
The “first time leftist” government in Greece did it again! Having promised prior to its initial election last year that it would “go after” Greece’s oligarch media owners, the government recently passed a law which, it claims, will put an end to 26 years of anarchy in Greece’s television landscape.
There is, however, a problem. This new law and the television licensing bid that the Greek government has recently announced and made such a big deal of, will not put an end to this so-called anarchy. It will not go after the oligarchs and media mavens. It will not restore order in the television landscape. Instead, what this new law will do is concentrate even more media power in the hands of the few, while giving the government a tremendous amount of power and control over the media landscape. This is a law that will also set a dangerous precedent which could then be expanded to Greece’s local television stations, to the radio landscape, and to the internet.
This week on Dialogos Radio, the Dialogos Interview Series will feature an exclusive interview with author, columnist, former Wall Street Journal editor, and former undersecretary of the United States Treasury Paul Craig Roberts. Dr. Roberts will share with us his thoughts and analysis of the economic situation in Greece and his views regarding a potential “grexit,” while also speaking to us about neoliberal economic policies on a global scale, geopolitical developments in the Middle East and Russia, United States foreign policy, and the upcoming presidential elections in the United States. This is a highly relevant and timely interview that you will not want to miss!
In addition to this interview, we will feature our commentary of the week segment on the SYRIZA government’s latest effort to consolidate control over the Greek media landscape, plus some great Greek music!
It was a little over three years ago when I personally had the opportunity to travel to the heart of the beast: a week-long visit to EU institutions and to NATO, as part of an academic program I was invited to participate in. This was a week that was full of misery for me but which was nevertheless beneficial in that it was remarkably eye-opening. Hearing statements made by EU and NATO officials about Greece and hearing their viewpoints about such quaint notions as democracy were truly telling and spoke volumes about the regard with which these principles are upheld within these institutions. At the meetings that I attended, a number of very revealing statements were made by the EU and NATO technocrats who spoke to us, statements which I took note of, including the following highlights:
The transcript of Dialogos Radio’s interview with international lawyer and professor Francis Boyle of the University of Illinois. This interview aired on our broadcasts for the week of February 18-24, 2016. Find the podcast of this interview here.
MN: Joining us today on Dialogos Radio and the Dialogos Interview Series is international lawyer and professor of international law at The University of Illinois Dr. Francis Boyle. Boyle has served as legal counsel to the Palestinian Authority, to Hawaiian independence groups, and served on the legal team which led to the conviction of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney for war crimes. Professor Boyle, welcome to our program today.
FB: Well, thank you very much for having me on, and my best to all my friends in Greece. Great country, great people. I spent about two weeks traveling around in 1974, and another two weeks traveling around in 1982.
MN: Wonderful…well, let’s get started by talking about the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission and the case which led to the conviction of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzalez and others in absentia for war crimes. Tell us about this commission, and about this case that you were a part of, and its aftermath.
This week on Dialogos Radio, the Dialogos Interview Series will feature an exclusive interview with prominent international lawyer and University of Illinois professor of international law Francis Boyle. Boyle was part of the team of lawyers who charged George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Tony Blair, Donald Rumsfeld and other members of the United States and United Kingdom governments with war crimes and torture in an international court, resulting in their conviction in absentia on these charges.
In this week’s interview, Boyle will discuss the aftermath of this case and conviction, the foreign policy of the United States and NATO and its impacts in the Middle East and elsewhere, the upcoming presidential election in the United States, other issues pertaining to international law and human rights, while Boyle also shares with us his analysis on Greece’s national debt and its memorandum agreements with the so-called troika, and what international law has to say about these issues.
In addition this week, we will air a special feature with music written and performed by Greek and international artists, in solidarity with the refugees fleeing the Middle East and the Greek people in the Aegean islands who have helped the incoming refugees. This music will be accompanied by soundbites from the artists themselves, discussing their inspiration in producing this new music. Plus, we will air our commentary of the week segment.
Tune in for all this and more, this week exclusively on Dialogos Radio and the Dialogos Interview Series!
The transcript of Dialogos Radio’s interview with Mona Amanatidou and Christos Triarchis of the Popular Stoppage of Payments movement in Greece. This interview aired on our broadcasts for the week of February 4-10, 2016. Find the podcast of this interview here.
MN: Joining us today on Dialogos Radio and the Dialogos Interview Series is Mona Amanatidou and Christos Triarhis from Greece’s Popular Stoppage of Payments movement, who will speak to us about this movement and what it is all about, and in addition, about the social and political developments in Greece today. Mona and Christo, thank you for joining us today.
MA: Thank you for calling us from New York and giving us the opportunity to say a few words about what were are doing here in Iraklio.
MN: To begin, share with us a few words about how the Popular Stoppage of Payments movement first began, and a brief historical overview of your movement.
Once again, Greece is experiencing a time of political and social uncertainty, a time where yet again many citizens have begun to search for a new political savior, one that will pull Greece out of its current economic abyss and provide the promise of “hope” and “change”, putting an end to the crisis and placing Greece back on a path towards growth and better days.
This is highly similar to what was taking place in Greece just over a year ago, when millions of people within and outside of Greece believed that SYRIZA could comprise this sort of political force. And they believed this purely on the basis of rhetoric and promises. The big promises made by Alexis Tsipras and the rest of SYRIZA regarding the abolition of the austerity measures with one law and one article, the supposedly anti-austerity Thessaloniki policy platform, the tearing apart of the memorandum agreements, promises, promises and yet more promises from SYRIZA, including promises that all of these wonderful things could take place firmly within the confines of the European Union and the Eurozone, and that SYRIZA, when in power, would indeed manage to change Europe!
The transcript of Dialogos Radio’s interview with economist Dimitris Karousos. This interview aired on our broadcasts for the week of November 19-25, 2015. Find the podcast of this interview here.
MN: Joining us today on Dialogos Radio and the Dialogos Interview Series for the first interview of the new year is Greek economist Dimitris Karousos, who has worked for years as a foreign exchange trader in major financial firms in the United Kingdom and who is an expert on issues pertaining to foreign exchange and the financial markets. In addition, Karousos was also a candidate in last September’s parliamentary elections with Greece’s United Popular Front. Dimitri, thank you for joining us today.
DK: Thank you very much for this invitation.
MN: Let’s begin our interview today with a discussion of the recent recapitalization of the four major Greek banks. In what condition is the Greek banking system today and what will be the consequences of this latest recapitalization?
It has been one year since the elections which brought SYRIZA to power in Greece for the first time. One year from the time where millions of people in Greece and around the world took to the streets to celebrate the “hope” and “change” and the “end of austerity” that were to surely follow from the so-called “first time left” government in Greece, which we were told would not just save Greece, but all of Europe and indeed the world. One year from the time that the same media which have served and continue to serve as pro-austerity cheerleaders, and clueless academic leftists, were telling us that a government of hope and change had finally arrived.
This week on Dialogos Radio, the Dialogos Interview Series will feature a timely interview with Mona Amanatidou and Christos Triarchis, representatives of Greece’s Popular Stoppage of Payments movement. They will speak to us about the movement and its actions, particularly their weekly blockades of courthouses to prevent the auction of foreclosed residences. In addition, they will speak about the many other popular movements which are active in Greece at the moment and about current political and social circumstances in the country.
In addition to this interview, we will feature our commentary of the week segment, which will shed light on the true Yanis Varoufakis, behind his facade as an “anti-austerity” crusader, while we will also air plenty of great Greek music. All this and more, this week exclusively on Dialogos Radio!